Chapters 16-18 Discussion Notes
- The nuns are innocent, but they talk about Romeo and Juliet, which is a not so innocent story. This is a conflict of innocence similar to Holden’s life.
- Holden fears what is insincere. Holden is insincere and sees it in other people. He is a liar and sees other people as liars too.
- Holden trusts no one and assumes no one is trustworthy
- Holden doesn’t know whether he belongs on the see-saw
- Holden has a serious conflict of growing up
- Holden just wants to be taken care of, like the ducks
- Holden actually cares about Sally
- Tate noticed Holden eats same thing on 2 pages
- Tate is the second coming
- Holden has gotten to the point where even Sally won’t run away with him. He seems hopelessly lost.
- Holden is so self-focused, he never hears anyone
- Holden is a phony, so he expects everyone to be phony as well
- He never expects anyone to listen to him
- Holden is definitely depressed
- JD Salinger is unhappy about the ending of the movie with the soldier. The fact the woman is crying over the reality that is false is what makes him very upset
- JD Salinger = DB